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Becca Rose Hall's avatar

Thanks John, for your thoughtful comment here. I agree that any dystopia/utopia and everything beyond that binary is already in today. Thanks for pointing it out!

Reading more of the book I mention in this post, there is a lot of horror in it, mostly in the time between now and when it takes place. It’s not what I want for the world. But there is something maybe extra hopeful about imagining a fundamentally healthier future following things getting worse. (Still looking for someone to imagine a future without that apocalyptic period though.)

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John Hargreaves's avatar

I’m pleased to see you return to the question you raised as a challenge for yourself and others: what does a non-apocalyptic culture-and-planet-flourishing future look like?

Now you ask ‘Can we even imagine a non-apocalyptic future?’.

As someone who reads, discusses, and reflects a great deal about the climate emergency and its seemingly inexorable course towards destruction on a catastrophic scale, I would have to say that it is very difficult.

Most dystopic fiction that I have read, however, is not unremittingly bleak. There is usually a sense of hope in there somewhere. Just as someone’s utopia is usually dependent on someone else’s dystopia, so in most people’s imagined dystopias I suspect there lurks an opposite force or energy, suppressed, oppressed, but kept alive by hope.

I like your idea of taking responsibility for where and how we pitch our imaginations. But it strikes me as a complex, nuanced business that doesn’t bear binary fields like utopian/dystopian. The fine paragraph you wrote, for instance, describing what you saw of LA from the vantage of your hotel/convention/wasteland perspective, was highly dystopian. But beautifully constructed – and including ‘bougainvillea and bright blooming trees’ and ‘so many kumquats… and ripe avocados’.

Sometimes it can seem difficult to find sufficient culture-and-planet-flourishing moments in the here and now, let alone imagine them for the future. But there they are.

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